2012

[Matthew]

I'm not sure what happened to this website over the past few months, but it's obviously change and fewer people are on it.  We need to engage in some important discussion about things.  Let's just start it off with something - current event: global awakening.  Go.

[Andrew Groberg]

There is no global awakening.You have to realize,ascension;salvation;eternal growth;progression;these are all personal things.You can't change the world,you can only change you.

[Korey]

I agree that you cannot change the world, only yourself , that is a given. You absolutely cannot change another Being. That being said, i feel like the idea of a global awakening isn't far fetched. Ignorance and government agenda are 2 main energies that have us stuck in turmoil. The Power of Suggestion is an awfully powerful idea. The majority of society believes what they're told, doesn't question authority, doesn't think for themselves, and look for Love and Happiness in the material world. But I feel that once the seed is planted and is consciously perceived with open-mindedness and accepted as even a possibility, that human nature and curiosity will eventually lead a person to Awaken. One thought on the government aspect, they know how powerful people can be when they Unite. That is why psychedelics are illegal. Many people are terrified by the thought of psychedelics because they've been conditioned by the government to believe that they cause psychosis and a long list of other effects, when the Truth is, psychedelics take you TO REALITY, now away from it. If you can open people's eyes to their true nature of Being, there is "hope." I put the word in quotation because I dont believe in Hope. Hope is a unconscious compromise with the mind, for the ego's sake, to think things will be better in the future. Hope is saying "I wonder if any good will come." YOU MUST BE DEFINITE IN YOUR THOUGHTS!! I cannot express that enough. I totally agree and disagree with the statement that we cannot personally contribute to a global awakening. I totally agree because as long as you have ANY DOUBT in your mind that we CAN contribute, we can't. I totally disagree because I KNOW for a fact that we can personally contribute to it. You sound like an intelligent person, but you HAVE to get out of that thought pattern and believe with 100% of your Being that you can contribute to it. We are all part of the same Whole, so thinking that you are not a critical part of the Plan is borderline ludacrous, in my mind anyway. YOU are HERE to enable the Divine Purpose of the universe to unfold. THAT is how important you are! We're never going to get anywhere, anytime - thinking that we are all individual. I can see where you're reply makes sense you, especially if you adopt a thought pattern of Doubt. Eliminate ALL doubt, logic, and reason, because none of those things exist where our Souls are from. Make every single decision of your Life with pure, Unconditional Love as the intent and ALWAYS follow your heart, no matter what your mind, logic, or reason tell you. We are all One. One mind. One love.  

Andrew Groberg said:

There is no global awakening.You have to realize,ascension;salvation;eternal growth;progression;these are all personal things.You can't change the world,you can only change you.

[Matthew]

I think saying there is no global awakening is like denying that politicians are corrupt. There is no denying it.  You don't even need to have first hand evidence of the fact that politicians aren't concerned in any way about you to know they have been compromised by the rich and powerful.

[Andrew Groberg]

Compromised is not the right word.More like selectively bred into power.Don't get me wrong,when I say that there is no global awakening,I mean global.I don't really think the world as a whole is ready.In this great journey we are going to to lose a lot of "soldiers".I don't think that it's very far away either.

[Aham Maho]

People "Wake up" in many different ways. We are all one, but as we are experiencing individuality the method of awakening for each is different and personal. While all fall under a canopy of related experiences, knowledge, archetypes, and energies, the way awakening happens for an individual is their own. Those selectively leading the people and world as a unit are those who wish to force a specific kind of awakening for a specific kind of result. Lightworkers and those who work against their illusionnary freedom are the same, working as a unit to create a specific result. So, in a sense there is a -global- awakening, as in everyone is waking up in their own way, wether it be jumping out of bed, pulling the covers up and hitting snooze, or falling right off, or anything in between, it is not a purely organized and simplistic awakening towards a single thing, it is the coming to fruition of a multitude of selves, each with their own individual hopes and dreams, minds and bodies. Saying that it is not happening, I would have to agree is foolish, we could not have a site such as this if it were not. It is just the fact that all have chosen different ways and different realities to awaken to, that makes it so unclear what exactly is happening. But this is only because -more than one thing is happening- People are as different from each other as the Elements, some wish for Fire, some wish for Water, some wish for Air. In the end yes they are all Light. But some even wish for Darkness. No one's choice is ignored by entirety, and as such the chaos of this particular awakening is great, with clashes between each choice. But it must be seen that Duality itself is an illusion in order for the type of "Global Awakening" brought to mind by the very words themselves. One must see and accept the differences inside oneself and others for what they are. Many in this world are aware of much of the knowledge some of us self titled "scholars" dig from musty old tomes through the entirety of their lives, and it does not change them much. They have chosen this world, and when I say this world I mean this Mother Planet not particularly civilization, their reality here as their own, and while some could see this as lame, or even ignorant it is no different than the shining kingdoms or flying wheels within wheels that are the ideal reality for others, or even the flaming pits or desolate wastes chosen by yet other others. Some are waking up to this place, some to others, but are we all waking up? Most definately. The veils sway and bend at the weight of activity currently happening due to the thought-forms brimming within and on all sides of this plane. The time is upon us but it is a matter of Free-Will, a mattter of Remembering why you're here in the first place, and what it is you wish for.

[Korey]

@Andrew - You still have doubt. Not only are thinking this way, you're conscious enough of it to tell your fingers to physically type it out onto this forum. 

Andrew Groberg said:

Compromised is not the right word.More like selectively bred into power.Don't get me wrong,when I say that there is no global awakening,I mean global.I don't really think the world as a whole is ready.In this great journey we are going to to lose a lot of "soldiers".I don't think that it's very far away either.

[Cognitiu]

wish for nothing - for the wishful thinkers are too service to self orientated... everything else you said makes sense... thank you!

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Aham Maho said:

People "Wake up" in many different ways. We are all one, but as we are experiencing individuality the method of awakening for each is different and personal. While all fall under a canopy of related experiences, knowledge, archetypes, and energies, the way awakening happens for an individual is their own. Those selectively leading the people and world as a unit are those who wish to force a specific kind of awakening for a specific kind of result. Lightworkers and those who work against their illusionnary freedom are the same, working as a unit to create a specific result. So, in a sense there is a -global- awakening, as in everyone is waking up in their own way, wether it be jumping out of bed, pulling the covers up and hitting snooze, or falling right off, or anything in between, it is not a purely organized and simplistic awakening towards a single thing, it is the coming to fruition of a multitude of selves, each with their own individual hopes and dreams, minds and bodies. Saying that it is not happening, I would have to agree is foolish, we could not have a site such as this if it were not. It is just the fact that all have chosen different ways and different realities to awaken to, that makes it so unclear what exactly is happening. But this is only because -more than one thing is happening- People are as different from each other as the Elements, some wish for Fire, some wish for Water, some wish for Air. In the end yes they are all Light. But some even wish for Darkness. No one's choice is ignored by entirety, and as such the chaos of this particular awakening is great, with clashes between each choice. But it must be seen that Duality itself is an illusion in order for the type of "Global Awakening" brought to mind by the very words themselves. One must see and accept the differences inside oneself and others for what they are. Many in this world are aware of much of the knowledge some of us self titled "scholars" dig from musty old tomes through the entirety of their lives, and it does not change them much. They have chosen this world, and when I say this world I mean this Mother Planet not particularly civilization, their reality here as their own, and while some could see this as lame, or even ignorant it is no different than the shining kingdoms or flying wheels within wheels that are the ideal reality for others, or even the flaming pits or desolate wastes chosen by yet other others. Some are waking up to this place, some to others, but are we all waking up? Most definately. The veils sway and bend at the weight of activity currently happening due to the thought-forms brimming within and on all sides of this plane. The time is upon us but it is a matter of Free-Will, a mattter of Remembering why you're here in the first place, and what it is you wish for.

[Matthew]

right, i guess when i say global awakening, i should clarify what type of awakening.  maybe just in the corrupt political game sense of awakening. 

Andrew Groberg said:

Compromised is not the right word.More like selectively bred into power.Don't get me wrong,when I say that there is no global awakening,I mean global.I don't really think the world as a whole is ready.In this great journey we are going to to lose a lot of "soldiers".I don't think that it's very far away either.

[Andrew Groberg]

as long as it is so easy to be a walking dead in this society,it won't change.Our govt just does everything possible to fuel that way of life.It makes for great invisible slaves.

Matthew said:

right, i guess when i say global awakening, i should clarify what type of awakening.  maybe just in the corrupt political game sense of awakening. 

Andrew Groberg said:

Compromised is not the right word.More like selectively bred into power.Don't get me wrong,when I say that there is no global awakening,I mean global.I don't really think the world as a whole is ready.In this great journey we are going to to lose a lot of "soldiers".I don't think that it's very far away either.